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First Cross-Town DATV

Transmission by W6HHC

Hi Bryon N6IFU,


Two members of the City of Orange COAR RACES,

Robbie KB6CJZ and Ken W6HHC, have been working

on Digital-ATV for several months. They had provided

a presentation on DATV and demo at the Orange

County RACES January meeting.  Ken W6HHC just

received his Down East power amplifier for 30 W on

1.2 GHz. Ken and Robbie can now report that in

mid-February they transmitted the first cross-town

DATV signals in Orange, from Ken’s home to the

roof of the Orange Police Department. The distance

is about 3 miles at roof-top height, with plenty of

tree-lined streets, and through one elevated-freeway.

The 1.2 GHz DATV picture was perfect!  More DATV

field testing is planned. Ken W6HHC


^             COAR RACES



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Scheduled Program Guide for ATV


7:00 PM PST

Oregon Amateur Television Association

           "OATVA" Net

           Net held every Monday starting at 7:00 PM

   listed under "repeater streaming"

            using it's repeater's call W7AMQ

11:00 PM PST

        DB0HEX, Mount Brocken/ATV in Germany

           Round Table at (0700 UTC Tuesday)

        SCART Net (GB3IV)



12:00 Noon PST       

         Torbay Amateur Television & Microwave Group
            Group Activity Night
            Every Tuesday at 2000 to 2200 UTC
   under GB3TB Repeater   
6:00 PM PST

        ATCO ATV Net

            Every Tuesday (0200 UTC Wednesday)

   under repeater streams WR8ATV &

8:30 PM PST

       WB9KMO Net Night Santa Barbara, CA

           Every Tuesday at (0430 UTC Wednesday) the goto members streams and look

           for WB9KMO

8:00 PM PST

       W7TED Repeaters Net Night

           Every Tuesday (0400 UTC Wednesday)

11:00 PM PST 

       DB0HEX, Mount Brocken/ATV in Germany

           Round Table (0700 UTC Wednesday)


11:00 AM PST      

        Chat Night, GB3ZZ  
            Every Wednesday at 1900 to 2100 UTC

            BATC.TV streaming video then go to

            member streams as well as

6:00 PM PST

        C.A.T.S. Net

            Net held every Wed.

            9:00 PM to 10:00 PM EST (0200 UTC Thursday)

8:30 PM PST

Silicon Valley ATV Group

Net held every Wed. K6BEN RPT

            Not currently Streaming

            Anyone in the area is welcomed to check-in

            on 145.51 MHz simplex Talk-in freq.

11:00 PM PST

        DB0HEX, Mount Brocken/ATV in Germany

            Round Table (0700 UTC Thursday)

12:00 Noon PST
        Torbay Amateur Television & Microwave Group
            Group Activity Night
            Every Thursday at 2000 to 2200 UTC
    under GB3TB Repeater 
6:00 PM PST

        B.R.A.T.S. Net

            Net held every Thurs.

            9:00 PM to 10:00 PM EST (0200 UTC Firday)

7:00 PM PST

        San Bernardino Microwave Society Meeting 

            Next meeting December 3rd

       Meeting are held on the first Thursday of the month.

             Meeting start @:

            7:00 to 9:00 PM PT Starts @ 0300 UTC to 0500 UTC Friday

            You can watch the SBMS Meeting on the

            The METS ATV Repeaters as well as or the

            ATN-CA Repeaters in Southern California or them go to ATV Repeaters and

            click on W6ATN  or try  then click on option #1 or #2

8:00 PM PST  

         MDARC ATV Repeater Net

         Net held every Thursday starting at 8:00 PM
11:00 PM PST

        DB0HEX, Mount Brocken/ATV in Germany

             Round Table (0700 UTC Friday)


1:00 PM PST

        GB3GG, Grimsby Amateur Television Group Net
             Every Friday at 2100 ZULU


11:00 PM PST  

^         DB0HEX, Mount Brocken/ATV in Germany

            Round Table (0700 UTC Saturday)


11:00 AM PST

Oregon Amateur Television Association

          "OATVA Net"

           Every Saturday starting at 11:00 AM

  listed under "repeater streaming"

           using it's repeater's call W7AMQ

12:00 Noon PST

         Spanish/English Net

^ Argentina/CA ATV Net

            Held every Saturday

            AC6RB and Friends, everyone is welcomed and found under the W6ATN

            Repeater stream

6:00 PM PST

        M.A.T.S. Net

            Held every Saturday

            9:00 PM to 10:00 PM EST (0200 UTC Sunday)

1:30 AM PST

        DB0HEX, Mount Brocken/ATV in Germany

            Round Table at (0930 UTC)


3:00 AM PST  

North Bristol Amateur Radio Club

Net every Sunday at 3:00 AM PST 

             (11:00 to 12:00 UTC)

             Streamed by G8VPG

             streamed via GB3UT on


9:30 AM PST 

MDARC, "Bathrobe" Net 

         Held every Sunday @ 9:30 AM

11:00 AM PST

        GB3ZZ Chat Night 

            Every Sunday at 1900 to 2100 UTC Streaming video go to members stream

            and look for GB3ZZ

            and as well

12:00 Noon PST

        Torbay Amateur Television & Microwave Group
            Group Activity Night
            Every Sunday at 2000 to 2200 UTC under GB3TB Repeater 

 7:00 PST 9:00 pm CST 

         Minnesota Fastscan Amateur TV

            MNFAT Club Net

            Every Sunday at 0300 UTC Go to "Members Stream" and

            look for KB0ozn




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Hepburn tropo forecast page:  

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Hawaiian Beacons for the West Coast provided by. "KH6HME"
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Other Streaming ATV Videos

Washington State RACES Station


W7EMD Ustream.TV



K8DMR's Camstream

not in operation at this time


WB8LGA's Camstream

Links to other camstreams and Google ATV Maps

And location to view the ATCO ATV Net

Severnside Television Group


N6GKB's Tower Cam in Yucca Valley, CA .

And Back-up for the AC6RB Camstream  


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for Ham Radio &

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You are invited to use AC6RB's On Line Repeater,

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California, USA

Acres Electronics, ZL4TAO
ATV Gear

ATV Google Map

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Amateur Radio Victoria
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Associated Radio Amateurs of Long Beach, Inc.
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ATV Mobile Website
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  CQ-TV Magazine, View Back Issues and the Place to Subscribe

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Historical TV & Radio Website

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Italian ATV, IK1HGI

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Las Vegas Radio Amateur Club and
Microwave Experimenters Television System (METS)   
Mini-kits Hi-Tech RF Kits and Components
MNFAT Minnesota Group/KB0OZN
N6HOG's Weather Web

Oregon Amateur Television Association-Portland


P.C. Electronics

Salem Amateur Television Associations-Salem
San Bernardino Microwave Society (SBMS)  
Severnside Television Group

  Website streaming website  

Southgate Amateur Radio  Club
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HF with FFT-TV  

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Oat Mtn. News



Oat Mtn. had a crew visit the repeater site and do some

work this week.


I know that they installed a new 900 MHz antenna with a

3 deg down tilt.


And they found some problems with the 440 MHz antenna.


^ This weeks Joke:

Got a joke? send it to

^ Southern California News




I Have Been Wrong

Reprint from 2-16-2010 Edition

by N6IFU 


On the ATN-CA repeaters there is all kinds of "Hate Speech"

and "Personal Attacks " focused on ATVers for things a simple

as having a political affiliation or having an opinion. I have seen

other ATVers be uncomfortable with these kind of subjects

being on ATV.


I have been racking my brain to think of a way to express this

subject to the local readers so it might find it's way to the "ATN

Winter Meeting" and maybe stop the attacks. .


I started thinking of who is making the hate speech? And who

is making the personal attacks on other ATVers? Who are

the "Haters". And I realized that all of them are long timers to ATN.

And they are all part of running the repeater network. And they are

also close friends of Mike Collis, WA6SVT. And he owns most

of the repeaters and the club.......... And it became clear....  

  ^  I have been wrong. 


I have been a ham radio operator for quiet a while and I have

always operated under the impression that Amateur Radio was

a noble and respected hobby. And along with the License

you were given the responsibility to up hold the integrity of the



I now see that ATN really has a different prospective. The

hate speech and personal attacks have been going on for

years. I was told that there used to be over 100 ATVers in

Orange County alone the Haters were able run off every one

of them. And considering that the Haters are only a very

small number and a very small fraction of the membership

of ATN, that is impressive.


Things make sense now. Things I have been told so many

times. Things like, ^ ATN has been doing it like this

for 12 years and were not going to change anything. And,

If you don't like what we're doing why don't you build your

own ATV repeater and run it the way you want to. How could

I be so dumb.


This is the way it is going to be on ATN and I have wasted years

trying to make it more in the image of what I thought Amateur Radio

was about. I apologize. I guess you could call me a "Goody

2 Shoes" when it comes to Amateur Radio.


And to show you that I am truly sorry I am going to help you

by promoting your style of ATV, the ATN way. Thinks like giving

the very small group that has been around for years doing their job

a special name. Like "Haters" or "THE ATN HATERS" or

maybe the Mad Haters, you know kind of a play on works for

the Mad Hatters. Well maybe not that one so I will stick with

ATN Haters for now.


To also help I added a new section to the ATV Newsletter to support

all the hate speech and personal attacks you can dish out

every week from now on. Check it out at the end of this



I am going to try and report all the hate speech and personal

attacks that I see on ATN.  And I will publish them each week.

But I may miss some of the attacks so it would be a good idea

to shoot me of an email and let me know who you attacked, and

what you said. That way you will get all the recognition and accolades

and respect that you deserve for carrying out the way of ATN.


You might want to consider making "Hate Dates" which would

put a time and day that you would like to attack someone

so everyone can tune in and watch. You could even have a "Hate

Net" and have it just before or just after the ATN Net. That way

you would have more people tuned in and already watching. I will

be happy to list and publish all your Hate Dates. Act now and

reserve your Hate Date before all the good time slots are taken.


You could have "Hate History", and remember people

you have humiliated in the past. Or you could have a

"Hate-O-Rama" once a year and just go nuts. The possibilities

are endless. And I am going to be there helping you along the way.


I am not going to become an ATN Hater and am going to

remain a Goody 2 Shoes. And as for the rest of the goody 2

shoes that are on ATN, your on your own. If I were you I would

learn to be an ATN Hater or watch out. Only time will tell

before you receive your first personal attack. And these guys

are good at humiliating a person. I have seen Haters set on the

air and talk for hours about how much they hate you and how

stupid you are. And for God's sake don't ever have an opinion.

And I have heard them go on and on about the METS ATV

repeaters here in Southern California as well as the San

Bernardino Microwave Society. All Religions, all races and

all nationalities are not out of bounds either.  


If you are smart you should just leave ATN right now and do

something else with your Ham Radio time. And that's because

nothing is going to change at ATN.


I am going to print next weeks edition of the ATV Newsletter

a day early this week so I can get some last minute ideas

to the ATN Haters before the Winter Meeting. So deadline for

copy this week will be Thursday at Noon.


The few ATN Haters are pioneers and are breaking new ground

for Amateur Radio and ATV. A new way to look at Amateur

Radio so it fits into today's society. Breaking ground that could

be the future of ATV repeaters and ATV clubs all over the world.


Now get out there and hate!


Repairs Needed for the ATN-CA Repeaters

1. Establish link from Mt. Potosi

2. Repair 900 MHz output transmitter and reinstall

3. Get repeater back on the air.
Mt  Wilson:

No one using Mt. Wilson at this time, condition unknown.
Oat Mtn.:
1. Replace plastic wire ties with appropriate fasteners.
2. Tune 2.4 GHz link dipole for better SWR. It would be a

    good idea to sweep the 1200 MHz antenna at the same

    time as well.
Santiago Peak:
1. Remove KC6UQH's call and Palomar from the W6ATN

    repeaters ID's (late spring early summer 08 when the new controller is installed)
2. Look into weak signal getting into one of the inputs.

3. Find intermittent receive problem for link from Oat Mtn..(1/24/09)

4. Resolve problems with WiFi getting into receiver for Snow Peak

    & Point Loma (April 28, 2009)

Snow Peak:

1. 2.4 Ghz input is operational but has audio problems due to

    receiver problems on the network hub.. July 23, 2009

2. The 1200 MHz output does work and you can watch.

3. Get repeater back on the air.

Point Loma, W6RDF: No Repairs Needed/Fully Operational

   Trustee Robert Swain, KA4JSR

1. Off the air do to AC problems at the shack.

Mount Potosi:


Hate Speech & Personal Attacks

as seen on ATN-CA,

this week!

Plus Nudity, Obscene images and language and

subject matter consider inappropriate for Amateur Radio



This New Section of the ATV Newsletter is dedicated to

the great men that run ATN, the ATN Haters.


^ Reality ATN

Here is an email that I received this week:
Hello Bryon,

I tried to watch the ATN on the streaming video but it wasn't

working. Do you know why it isn't working? I used to watch the

the stream and I have a recording of an old naked guy wearing a

white bra and then he proceeded to do a strip-tease in a very

creepy way. He didn't ever ID who he was but he was talking

to XXXXXX. They were laughing and having a great time.


Would you like me to send you a copy of the event or would

you like me to put it on YouTube? I love your newsletter, keep

up the great work.



Thank you Kevin for your email. As for the streaming video I

have no control over weather it is on or off. You can go to the

ATN Club web site and get the email address for the club

officers and ask them to turn it back on. But I think it is

working now. Check it out.


ATN Web Site


As for the recording of the strip-tease, that was XXXX and he

is so funny. Last week he was talking about how he had run

out of corn cobs and had to buy two big packages of toilet

paper. He does love his corn cobs. On Tuesday he was

talking about how warm it had gotten here in So. Cal and

he was going to start wearing his thong. He said that when

he puts it on it looks like he isn't wearing anything. So we

all should look forward for him to model his thong on ATN.

On Wednesday he showed his thong (not wearing it) on

ATN and suggested that the Amateur Television Quarterly

should add a "centerfold" and get someone to pose for the

picture in a thong. He said that he was going to talk to

Mike Collis at the "Winter ATN Meeting" this Saturday

and see if the centerfold could be added to the next

edition of ATQ.  Just more great fun on ATN-CA.


^ Emails to ATN

If you decide to send an email to the officers of ATN it would

be great if you Cc:or Bcc: me as well.


To get the email addresses of the officers go to

Cc: or Bcc: me at


^ Thank you for your Emails

I want to thank everyone that sent me an email this week

and let you know that I have been overwhelmed with the

numbers and will be getting back to you all very soon.


Bryon Foster

Editor and Publisher of the ATV Newsletter



How to Destroy Creditability

the ATN Hater Way.


Here is what I saw on ATN-CA repeaters a few hours

after last weeks Newsletter was sent out.


This is an attack on me and the ATV Newsletter because

of what I wrote in last weeks edition.


There were two Hams involved with a QSO and one of them

had just opened his ATV Newsletter email and was giving it

a quick read. The other Ham started the classic Hate attack.


I am going to give the Hater some pointers as we go through

this attack so I can help him improve. The Haters words are

in bold lettering.


First rule is never address to real opinion or question.

Always misdirect. You can't say that you never said it because

you know it has been most likely recorded so you said ,

" You have to consider that this is coming from someone that

doesn't even belong to the group". This is good but it can be

a problem and you might want to avoid it. Someone may ask

how you know he isn't a member of ATN. (The point being, I did

not renewed my ATN membership last year and the Clubs

Constitution dictates that your name will remain on the membership list

until the following year and it will then be removed.) So there is no

way you should know about my dues. You aren't an Officer of ATN

but you know something no one should know. And you could get

asked uncomfortable questions about the operations of the club like,

do you know about all the other ATN members and how they

pay their dues? Can I have all the information about the other

members as well? Why are you been giving this information?

Which ATN Club officer gave you the information? ....

See what I mean, not a good idea.


Besides saying that I can't have an opinion about ATN is like

saying you can't have an opinion about "The Tea Party"

unless you belong to the tea party.

See what I mean, it doesn't work and has to many problem

spots. And I might as well ask you now. Which ATN officer

told you about my membership? Seriously, which ATN officer

told you about my membership? And did Ed and Mike not

pay their dues?


Besides all of this pertaining to, " he's not a part of the group"

stuff, Someone might think that people who haven't paid their due's

might be targeted for attack by the ATN Haters. I wouldn't

make that mistake again if I were you. I don't know if this

is the way ATN does it, but it sure sounds like a good idea

you might want to start.


Then you said: ^ Well he slants his story's to how

ever he wants to. You know how easy it is to do that! You

forgot already. I used to be against the attacks and hate

speech and now I'm on your side and want you to do what you

have done all these years and leave you along to do it.

I just report about what I see, so you can get all the recognition and

respect you deserve. Remember I am here to promote you

not stop you. So on this topic it doesn't work because

I am slanted for you. I am on your side. 


You also said: ^ I didn't know that Ed was in the Hospital.

I don't think that was a good idea to say. I can't see some-

one saying.... well you didn't know that Ed was in the Hospital so

I guess it's alright to attack him. It doesn't work, see.

And the attacks always start behind the persons back anyway.


Next you said that: ^ He has done this before about a year ago and

he wants to get it in all before the Winter Meeting. Yes I

did when I went by the club rules and tried to make changes

to the ATN Constitution. And my changes were defeated but I

should have know not to have an opinion. Besides I was

against you and your ways last year and I have now seen

the light. I am on your side. This is just like the attack on

N6ESW. He had an opinion and so did I. If you want to attack

me at the Winter Meeting this year and humiliate me it's

OK. See if you can do a better job on me than Mike. So I

wouldn't use this anymore because it doesn't wash. It makes

you look bad.  


(For all the readers that don't know: ATN has only one meeting

each year. There is a Bar-B-Que in the Summer but

most of the time there is no business conducted.) 


Then you said: ^ All he wants to do is destroy ATN. Well I can tell

you that I do not want to destroy ATN. I am here to promote

your way of ATV and help you when ever I can. Besides how

can I destroy ATN by writing about all the wonderful things

you do on ATN. I print your words. Having fun on ATV.


As you can see the these first attacks you used really don't work

and when you are trying to destroy someones creditability you

don't want to come off like you don't know what you are talking

about because you begin to lose creditability. The members of

ATN are brilliant people and will see the faults in your attack. .


Then you said: ^ Everyone will know what kind of idiot he is.

Good personal attack. But most people don't respond very well to

name calling. It is considered "childish". I wouldn't use it again. .


Then you said: Well Bryon is just an Ass Hole and then you said

Oops, I made a slip. Unbelievable! How did you learn to destroy

someones creditability? Foul language is very childish and never

should be used. It is always used as a last ditch effort to say

something when you have no defense for your opinion.


Now the attack on my creditability will normaly go on day after

day and the Hater will be like a Coo Coo Clock popping up

on the repeaters and running through the same list of attacks

with anyone that will talk to him. So much love and devotion

to his trade. And like I always say, if your going to do a job,

do it well.


Remember the most important part of destroying someones creditability,

never address the real question always misdirect and always make the

attack personal. No one has the right to have an opinion except

the Haters.


^ The only real problem with attacking someones creditability is if

you don't say the right things you could end up losing all

your own creditability. So be very careful.


If I were to grade your attempt to destroy my creditability I would

give you an F. You really didn't have a well planned attack.

I suggest that when you want to make your next attack that you

take the time to write down your points and really think about

them, Then you should practice your attack with one of the other

Haters and see what they think.


Next week I will publish the next part of an ATN Hater

attack which will be titled,

"Two or Three on One Attacks"

Mortal Combat or Death Blow.


As well as another article titled:


and what to do with it.


Keep on Hate'n


^ Letters to the Editor





If you have an opinion or viewpoint that you would like to express

to the readers, please submit your letters to:
See you all on ATV,
Bryon Foster
Editor and Publisher of the "ATV Newsletter"

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